Dear proponents of > multiperspectival liberational > approaches:
a.) the single-issue people, aren’t even single issue but rather using activism as a proxy for other agendas, consciously or partly consciously
b.) the intersectional people aren’t even intersectional since they value issues in hierarchical differences of moral weight and importance.
Gruppe Messel
Followerism and no infighting against Animal Objectification
“Hi, no infighting”, but a bunch of people rally for closing down animal shelters and bring this argument forth as their academic output from within Animal Rights + Animal Liberation scenes. You may call a clear cut stance > a critique within movements “infighting”, while we simply talk about messages. One must be seriously upset about of the amount of speciesism that’s being tolerated as part of antispeciesism. To us it’s time to take the unhandy step of an explicit even more far reaching separation from these currents, even if they are the norm/mainstream, within all that what we conceive as animal advocacy.
We wrote on social media:
„Wir können ja auch jegliche Schutzeinrichtung für Menschen aufgeben wollen und es bleibt trotzdem unethischer Quatsch. Wir sind gerade allen entfolgt die den hier benannten und kritisierten Akademiker*innen folgen, welche dafür plädieren … lest selbst“ > https://news.nathanwinograd.org/p/regarding-henry
„ … Tierrechts- und Umweltschutzthemen machen klar, dass weiblich gelesene Personen gleichermaßen zur Verantwortung zu ziehende culprits sind, wie ihre männl. gel. couterparts, nur nehmen sie in dem Theater eine andere Rolle im gemeinsam getragenen Skript ein. Subject closed!“
“We can also want to give up any protection facility for people and it still remains unethical nonsense. We have just unfollowed all those who follow the academics named and criticized here, who advocate this … just read for yourself” > [Nathan Winograd bringing up the issue and writing an excellent critique] https://news.nathanwinograd.org/p/regarding-henry
“ … Animal rights and environmental protection issues make it clear that female-read people are equally culprits to be held accountable, as their male-read couterparts, with the only difference that in the theater they take on a different role in the shared script. Subject closed!“
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The tipping point really has been reached by this call that Nathan Winograd criticizes here, where two academic animal advocates unitedly call for closing down shelters – and with that proposal they implicitly undermine all the crucial efforts of the no kill movement in the USA:
“The Anti-Heroes: Katja Guenther and Kristen Hassen betrayed animals for self-aggrandizement. They now want to abolish animal shelters and leave animals to fend for themselves on the streets.” https://news.nathanwinograd.org/p/the-anti-heroes
This, while at the same time some proponents of Total Liberation within the Animal Liberation field seek to undermine discursive pluralism and normal democratic behaviour as animal advocates, calling divergences, critical analyses of speciesism and animal objectification and debate signs of „infighting“, and suggesting that Animal Liberation was only to be achieved when advocates would speak in unisono, and obviously consider themselves to be one political body in itself (though I assume they do secondarize animal issues in regards to any other issue that might lay in their interests – otherwise why would they even consider Animal Liberation to work in a more simplified way that Human Liberation, etc.).
How can people assume that Animal Rights issues should not be evaluated using all possible ethical criterions that apply – and that from people coming from all political angles. Animal Rights subjects are not a „world in itself“ that stands outside of all other political issues. They are to be understood exactly like Human Rights: They are our direct concerns. And no one can lay a claim on being the authorative main movement with an unquestionable entitlement.
Just learn to think of Animal issues like Human Rights issues and Animal Rights like Human Rights, and you can understand the approach our group choses. And in times of human conflict we may choose to do so decidedly.
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rev. 24.10.24
Animal Rights includes both:
An affirmation of the respect we hold for Nonhumans (the bridge of “dignity”, as holding a respectful stance)
A fight for clearing messed up terms, that allow for systemic and other factual harms and devaluations of Nonhumans.
@RadicalAntispe
A repost from our > Visual Opinions Workshop > https://tierrechtsethik.de/dedication/
Being or sensing/feeling … ? Veganism vs. Sentientist struggles:
If someone argues forth or back for what argumentation is more substantial: that one of “life” (to be more meaningful as a criterion for human ethical concern) itself or that of “sentience”.
These angles are particularistic, foremostly if they move along the typical standardized philosophical borders.
Neither “life” nor “sentience” can be measured from a strictly human angle.
Animal Rights includes the ability to emancipate from objectivist humancentric viewpoints and enters into a philosophical space that allows freedom of the undefined: A basic respectful approach must not seek to overdefine its social and ecosocial environments.
Be it their lives or their sentience.
@RadicalAntispe
Repost from our > Visual Opinions Workshop > https://tierrechtsethik.de/being-and-sensing/
Sustainable … sustainability in social terms, inevitable.
Sustainable … when it means “growth”, seems a contradiction to economic-ecologic-justice.
Sustainable … and beneath the term of “ ’life’ on earth and water”, the rights and interests of ‘Farmed-Animals’ and ‘Lab-Animals’ (amongst other Animal Rights issues) are still being ruled out.
Antibiologistic Animal Sociology
Do you know all 17 Sustainable Development Goals? https://sdgs.un.org/goals
Als nationales Ziel von DE formuliert > https://www.bne-portal.de/bne/de/nationaler-aktionsplan/nationaler-aktionsplan_node.html > https://www.bne-portal.de/bne/shareddocs/downloads/files/nationaler_aktionsplan_bildung-er_nachhaltige_entwicklung_neu.pdf
The #EU uses to much language on sustainability that is incompatible with Animal Rights. The difficulties for animal adcovacy and the injustice towards the (entire) Nonhuman Animal World have to become part of humanities ethical home. We are positive the #UN can enventually help.
( > repost from our Visual Opinions Workshop @ tierechtsethik.de > https://tierrechtsethik.de/the-term-sustainable/ )
Where the notion of animality is mostly driven by biologism and general nonhuman animal objectification (philosophical, religious, legal, scientifically, and so forth) >
being “for animals”, being an “animal ally”, does not mean that these advocates share a similar view in their exact ideas of animal rights, ethics, animal lib, etc. >
Like in human rights and environmentalism/environmental rights, you get exactly all possibilities of possible worldviews, hopefully trying untangle the damage done.
Antispeciesist Animal Sociology, Gruppe Messel
( > repost from our Visual Opinions Workshop @ tierechtsethik.de > https://tierrechtsethik.de/animal-sociology-and-advocacy/ )
What people in animal studies call animal history is usually the history of human disparagement of nonhumans.
Analogisms for comparison in matters of human judgment of injustice/imperception of injustice would clarify the difference in perspective.
Antibiologistic Animal Sociology, Gruppe Messel
Nonhuman and human animal friends are confronted with a one-sided anthropogenic faunacidal war against nonhuman animality and animalness.
This one-sided destruction war runs parallel to the ecocidal war, by which Homo sapiens denies the entire animality its natural habitat and tries to deprive them of it by arbitrariness. Everything nonhuman is destroyed in its own reality.
Gruppe Messel
And: on Tierrechtsethik.de – a bilingual page – you can find a broad range of toughts on Animal Sapiens, Animal Sociology and subjective activism … .
Since we are gonna make changes on our websites, I have to move this content regarding the poet Marion Canby. It will be part of a new reader, yet meanwhile we place it on Civilized Objects …
See the nest in the meadow …
In search of the writer Marion Canby
A poem by Marion Canby
… a meadow … with nesting life
spared by a mower’s blade set high
the flowering weeds and grasses strewn
over the field to be raked and dried
by rays from a fire set high in the heaven.From: High Mowing by Marion Canby, 1932
I came across this poem in an opening quote, namely in “Leadership” by James MacGregor Burns ( http://www.academy.umd.edu/home/index.htm). This stanza is amazingly beautiful. Googling I found that Willa Cather http://cather.unl.edu/must have been in contact with Marion Canby….”
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FROM: A Calendar of the Letters of Willa Cather, see: http://cather.unl.edu/letters.html?name=High+Mowing (last accessed 11 May 2009). I cite:
Letter ID: 1106
Addressee: Canby, Marion
Date: 1932-04-21
Repository: Yale University, Beinecke Library, New Haven, Conn.
To Marion Canby, Apr. 21, [1932?]; BeineckeHas just found her book of verses [High Mowing, 1932] among a great many books that have come by mail. Likes them very much. Will be in town at the Grosvenor for about two weeks. Hopes they can talk. P.S.: Especially likes “Timid One” [a poem that expresses a wish for escape from being one’s self ]. Willa Cather [Stout #1106]
Marion Canby; the entry about the author at the Cather archive:
Canby, Marion (Mrs. Henry Seidel)
American poet whose verses, collected in High Mowing (1932) and On My Way (1937), appeared in such magazines as Scribner’s, the Saturday Review of Literature, and the New Yorker.***
Other letters by Willa Cather that mention this person at the Willa Cather Archive: http://cather.unl.edu/letters.html?sort=date&rev=false&person=Canby%2C+Marion
Some of Marion Canby’s published works:
Different works by Marion Canby are listed and accessible via this site: http://www.unz.org/Author/CanbyMarion
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An email I received by Anna Canby Monk
With regard to your post dated April 13th 2008, I wanted to ask whether you had found any further information about Marion Canby. I’m interested because I am Marion Canby’s great-granddaughter and I never realised she published poetry. I checked the James MacGregor Burns link, however didn’t find the quotation.
Any further hints as to how I could get my hands on a copy of the work or any of her poetry would be really helpful.
Thanks in advance,
Anna***
My reply to Ms Anna Canby Monk
Dear Anna:
I found the poem in Leadership by James M. Burns. It doesn’t not name the poets name in there, but the title of the book. Because the poem touched me so deeply I googled the book title, and then found out that a poetry book with this name had been published by Marion Canby, namely your grandmother. This link takes you to the Willa Carther archive where book and author are mentioned, e.g.: http://bit.ly/mSOhA I also enclose you a scan of the book page from Burns’ book as an attached jpg file. I love this verse by your grandma. You can be proud … I wished her works were more known!!! I would be very thankful, if you would find out more, if you could keep me updated, in case you find any publications… Thanks …Wishing you a wonderful day…
Yours,
Gita Yegane Arani-May
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Ms Canby Monk’s reply to me
Dear Gita,
[…] Thanks so much also for the link to the Willa Cather archive; it’s one of life’s wonderful synchronicities that I recently studied Willa Cather and became a big fan. Now that I think of it, I suppose it makes sense that Marion knew Cather, through my great-grandfather Henry Seidel Canby who was editor of the Literary Review of the New York Evening Post and later the Saturday Review of Literature. My mom once mentioned that the two of them were in touch with a number of Jewish literary figures, and helped them emigrate from Europe and resettle in New York during the 1930s – one of them I believe was the Austrian writer Hermann Broch. He lived in New Haven – the Canby family home – and was buried in Killingworth which is where I think Marion lived at one point.
I also know that my grandfather – one of Marion’s sons – wrote a draft literary work about his mother in the last twenty years of his life. I’ve read parts of it, but must revisit it again. In our family home there are also stacks of diaries by the teenage Marion – many of which as I remember, are accounts of her and her family’s car trip through Europe at the end of the 19th century. One of the more funny anecdotes I remember from skimming though these accounts, is that often when they experienced breakdowns the car would be towed to a local blacksmith, some of whom had never seen let alone fixed a car before. I’m sure the diaries are full of teenage embellishments, but I find the images conjured wonderful.
I will absolutely let you know if and when I find out anymore. I found an online book store which sells ‘High Mowing’, so I’ve ordered it and look forward to reading it.
Someday maybe I will get around to writing about some of these thing before they are lost from living memory.
Best wishes,
Anna***
Then I received this kind email by the poet Donata Lewandowski Guerra
Dear Gita,
I was amazed to find the lines of Marion Canby and your correspondence with her relative, especially since, by chance I had been doing extensive research on her and her family all week in Wilmington, Delaware. In addition I worked all week on a sonnet about a pivotal tragedy in her life which I have placed online
http://www.scribd.com/doc/16830608/SONNET-THE-DEATH-OF-THE-DEBUTANTE-IN-THE-NEW-CENTURY
Thank you for your site. I do hope you might put me in contact with her great grandaughter since I have much more information.
Sincerely,
Donata Lewandowski Guerra…
What if it’s really illusionary to heal one evil by applying another evil? Like trying to fight an -ism
while (or with) sustaining another -ism – maybe inadvertently?
We don’t need/see/want an antisexist society where birds are still being objectified as food.
Any -ism … has its own specifics. Being against all neg. ‘-isms’, implies acknowledging their cases.
antispeciesist Animal sociology, Gruppe Messel