Single Issue vs. Intersectional vs. Real Antispe

Dear proponents of > multiperspectival liberational > approaches:

a.) the single-issue people, aren’t even single issue but rather using activism as a proxy for other agendas, consciously or partly consciously

b.) the intersectional people aren’t even intersectional since they value issues in hierarchical differences of moral weight and importance.

Gruppe Messel

 

 

 

Followerism and no infighting against Animal Objectification

Followerism and no infighting against Animal Objectification

“Hi, no infighting”, but a bunch of people rally for closing down animal shelters and bring this argument forth as their academic output from within Animal Rights + Animal Liberation scenes. You may call a clear cut stance > a critique within movements “infighting”, while we simply talk about messages. One must be seriously upset about of the amount of speciesism that’s being tolerated as part of antispeciesism. To us it’s time to take the unhandy step of an explicit even more far reaching separation from these currents, even if they are the norm/mainstream, within all that what we conceive as animal advocacy.

We wrote on social media:

„Wir können ja auch jegliche Schutzeinrichtung für Menschen aufgeben wollen und es bleibt trotzdem unethischer Quatsch. Wir sind gerade allen entfolgt die den hier benannten und kritisierten Akademiker*innen folgen, welche dafür plädieren … lest selbst“ > https://news.nathanwinograd.org/p/regarding-henry

„ … Tierrechts- und Umweltschutzthemen machen klar, dass weiblich gelesene Personen gleichermaßen zur Verantwortung zu ziehende culprits sind, wie ihre männl. gel. couterparts, nur nehmen sie in dem Theater eine andere Rolle im gemeinsam getragenen Skript ein. Subject closed!“

“We can also want to give up any protection facility for people and it still remains unethical nonsense. We have just unfollowed all those who follow the academics named and criticized here, who advocate this … just read for yourself” > [Nathan Winograd bringing up the issue and writing an excellent critique] https://news.nathanwinograd.org/p/regarding-henry

“ … Animal rights and environmental protection issues make it clear that female-read people are equally culprits to be held accountable, as their male-read couterparts, with the only difference that in the theater they take on a different role in the shared script. Subject closed!“

The tipping point really has been reached by this call that Nathan Winograd criticizes here, where two academic animal advocates unitedly call for closing down shelters – and with that proposal they implicitly undermine all the crucial efforts of the no kill movement in the USA:

“The Anti-Heroes: Katja Guenther and Kristen Hassen betrayed animals for self-aggrandizement. They now want to abolish animal shelters and leave animals to fend for themselves on the streets.” https://news.nathanwinograd.org/p/the-anti-heroes

This, while at the same time some proponents of Total Liberation within the Animal Liberation field seek to undermine discursive pluralism and normal democratic behaviour as animal advocates, calling divergences, critical analyses of speciesism and animal objectification and debate signs of „infighting“, and suggesting that Animal Liberation was only to be achieved when advocates would speak in unisono, and obviously consider themselves to be one political body in itself (though I assume they do secondarize animal issues in regards to any other issue that might lay in their interests – otherwise why would they even consider Animal Liberation to work in a more simplified way that Human Liberation, etc.).

How can people assume that Animal Rights issues should not be evaluated using all possible ethical criterions that apply – and that from people coming from all political angles. Animal Rights subjects are not a „world in itself“ that stands outside of all other political issues. They are to be understood exactly like Human Rights: They are our direct concerns. And no one can lay a claim on being the authorative main movement with an unquestionable entitlement.

Just learn to think of Animal issues like Human Rights issues and Animal Rights like Human Rights, and you can understand the approach our group choses. And in times of human conflict we may choose to do so decidedly.

 

rev. 24.10.24

Dedication

Animal Rights includes both:

An affirmation of the respect we hold for Nonhumans (the bridge of “dignity”, as holding a respectful stance)

A fight for clearing messed up terms, that allow for systemic and other factual harms and devaluations of Nonhumans.

@RadicalAntispe


A repost from our > Visual Opinions Workshop > https://tierrechtsethik.de/dedication/

 

Being and sensing

Being or sensing/feeling … ? Veganism vs. Sentientist struggles:

If someone argues forth or back for what argumentation is more substantial: that one of “life” (to be more meaningful as a criterion for human ethical concern) itself or that of “sentience”.

These angles are particularistic, foremostly if they move along the typical standardized philosophical borders.

Neither “life” nor “sentience” can be measured from a strictly human angle.

Animal Rights includes the ability to emancipate from objectivist humancentric viewpoints and enters into a philosophical space that allows freedom of the undefined: A basic respectful approach must not seek to overdefine its social and ecosocial environments.

Be it their lives or their sentience.

@RadicalAntispe


Repost from our > Visual Opinions Workshop > https://tierrechtsethik.de/being-and-sensing/

The term: sustainable

Sustainable … sustainability in social terms, inevitable.
Sustainable … when it means “growth”, seems a contradiction to economic-ecologic-justice.
Sustainable … and beneath the term of “ ’life’ on earth and water”, the rights and interests of ‘Farmed-Animals’ and ‘Lab-Animals’ (amongst other Animal Rights issues) are still being ruled out.

Antibiologistic Animal Sociology

Do you know all 17 Sustainable Development Goals? https://sdgs.un.org/goals

Als nationales Ziel von DE formuliert > https://www.bne-portal.de/bne/de/nationaler-aktionsplan/nationaler-aktionsplan_node.html > https://www.bne-portal.de/bne/shareddocs/downloads/files/nationaler_aktionsplan_bildung-er_nachhaltige_entwicklung_neu.pdf

The #EU uses to much language on sustainability that is incompatible with Animal Rights. The difficulties for animal adcovacy and the injustice towards the (entire) Nonhuman Animal World have to become part of humanities ethical home. We are positive the #UN can enventually help.


( > repost from our Visual Opinions Workshop @ tierechtsethik.de > https://tierrechtsethik.de/the-term-sustainable/ )

Faunacide and Ecocide

Nonhuman and human animal friends are confronted with a one-sided anthropogenic faunacidal war against nonhuman animality and animalness.

This one-sided destruction war runs parallel to the ecocidal war, by which Homo sapiens denies the entire animality its natural habitat and tries to deprive them of it by arbitrariness. Everything nonhuman is destroyed in its own reality.

Gruppe Messel

And: on Tierrechtsethik.de – a bilingual page – you can find a broad range of toughts on Animal Sapiens, Animal Sociology and subjective activism … .

Always oppressive specifics

What if it’s really illusionary to heal one evil by applying another evil? Like trying to fight an -ism
while (or with) sustaining another -ism – maybe inadvertently?
We don’t need/see/want an antisexist society where birds are still being objectified as food.
Any -ism … has its own specifics. Being against all neg. ‘-isms’, implies acknowledging their cases.

antispeciesist Animal sociology, Gruppe Messel

Decolonialism doesn’t explain forms of nonhuman objectification

Fragment

Decolonialism does not explain forms on nonhuman objectification and human “ruling via definition” in regards to “(nonhuman) animality” (which in itself is yet a term to be argued about and to be analyzed).

Decolonialism is one thing, Animal Objectification has its own histories, even when problematics converge and overlap e.g. in terms of ecological, eco-social contextualities. Brining decolonialism in as the solution for forms of animal objectification puts all hope on intra-human cultural diversity and ignores the dilemma of human definition of animal identity, which is simply not considered to be a historical major mistake seen in itself.

Decolonialism applies to intra-human constellations while the schism between “animal” and “human”, as some form of great hierarchically applied identities, stands outside of intra-human conflicts.

The notion of “human“ and the notion of “animal” differs with individuals, differs in different times and in different cultures. Bringing us all together under the assumption of functionability can’t solve the source of conflict between the predominant varied human notions of “human” and varied human notions of “nonhuman and animal” which resulted in today’s settings that we persistently have with animal objectifications.

Also, the problem with decolonialism to be applied as a tool to dismantle animal objectification raises the question of why the histories of animal objectification can’t be addressed with their own complicated specifics.

Antibiologistic Animal Sociology

Subversion and Oppression


Who pretends that subversion functioned differently in society than oppressive patterns, with both relying on similar basic assumptions about the human-animal-nature schisms – mostly in regards to the phenomenons of “existential meaningfulness” and the question of “self-authority”?
antibiologistic animal sociology