Capacity for freedom in denial

Messel Group Reader, Animal Rights Punk:

Comprehendung animals’ capacity for freedom > Animal Rights and Punk > Non-Domination:

  • World-Administration as Illusion … p. 19
  • Faunacide-Vectors: Consumer Belief, Freedom, and the Dissolution of cross Atlantic Post War Ethics … p. 36

d-nb.info/1388790726/34

An actual denial of this capacity is the kind of speciesist ableism we get philosophically – still – in today’s typical AR discussions even – which reveals how deeply speciesism really is engrained in people’s mindsets.

Let’s remove the > hegemonial approaches to > Animal Philosophies.

 

Theriomythological Approach: Religious Animal Ethics

Theriomythological Approach: Religious Animal Ethics

in German > https://simorgh.de/about/tiermythologischer-ansatz-religiose-tierethik/

[draft 05.01.25]

Yes—but what, exactly, is meant by religion here, and which history of religion is considered acceptable?

(also: spiritually instrumentalizing animal ethics; secular-religious meaning-production used to elevate religious claims to authority)

Definition

A discursive mode in which animals are not primarily regarded as autonomous subjects, but as carriers of moral, spiritual, or metaphysical meaning for humans. They receive recognition only insofar as they mirror human virtues; their own interests remain optional.

Description

  • Animals appear as moral mirrors, sources of meaning, or “cosmic teachers,” whether framed religiously or in language that sounds modern and natural-scientific.
  • Even in secular discourse, the classical logic often persists: animals symbolize human virtues, while their political autonomy and concrete lived realities remain invisible.
  • Authors openly or covertly demonstrate how animals serve human ethical self-assurance—without this being socially noticed. A true delight for feuilleton pages and publishing houses.

Religious Framing

Not every form of spiritual meaning-making is problematic. It becomes problematic when religion is hegemonically anthropocentric from the outset—this is a narrative and epistemic foundational problem. In such systems, animals remain projection surfaces for human morality.

To address animals in a genuinely respectful way, the concept of God would have to be thought non-humanly and radically freely, so that animals could appear as autonomous subjects rather than theological accessories.

Moral Attribution and Animal Mythology

  • In many cultures and mythologies, animals stood on an equal or even higher level than humans and functioned as agents of wisdom.
  • Fairy tales, fables, and animal mythologies depict animals as possessing their own perspectives, logics of action, and forms of knowledge—not merely as mirrors of human morality.
  • The major Abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity, Islam) have largely rendered this invisible, symbolically reducing animals and making them reflect primarily human order, virtue, and divine norms.
  • Even discourses legitimized through modern natural science often reproduce this reduction in disguise: animals remain dis-ensouled, turned into projection surfaces for human self-assurance.

Theoretical Context

Kim Socha emphasizes that even modern, secularly framed animal-rights discourses can reproduce concealed religious logics. Within this system, animals remain dis-ensouled, serving as projection surfaces for human constructions of meaning—even when the language sounds objective or scientific. (simorgh.de)

Core Elements

  • Concealed meaning-production: animals as projections of human self-elevation.
  • Instrumentalization: animals confirm human virtues rather than their own autonomy.
  • The secularism problem: modern discourse structurally adopts religious modes of thought—only more elegantly packaged.
  • Mythological alternative: in traditional animal mythologies, animals can be autonomous carriers of meaning and wisdom.

Short Thesis

Where animals are used as carriers of moral or spiritual meaning, they remain dis-ensouled—and once again become projection surfaces for human self-assurance. Still, one must admit: they appear very virtuous in the process.

Discursive Effect

  • Socially compatible, low-conflict, morally visible.
  • Empathy permitted; political consequence optional.
  • Reproduces anthropocentric power structures while simultaneously smelling faintly of modern feuilleton culture.

Delimitation

  • Not antispeciesist: animals are not treated as autonomous subjects with their own interests.
  • Not radically secular: animals are not consciously released from systems of meaning, but remain symbolically overcharged.

What is radically secular is to include—and truly perceive—Animal Sapiens. Once that happens, an entirely new epistemology emerges anyway, with or without religion.

 

Hunting and Gun Violence

Me first, and gun violence.

Gun Violence is d’accord with Hunting.
Only Hunting is the speciesist legitimation to target
violence as normality.

People can’t be at Peace in Society, while Animals can’t be at Peace with humanity overall everywhere.
That long-bred state of violence that terrorizes
is never going to be questioned.
And here the circle closes.

We will soon translate our recent texts in German about anti-hunting.

See in this context:

Antijagd als Aufhebung zivilisatorischer Paradoxie > https://tierrechtsethik.de/antijagd-als-aufhebung-zivilisatorischer-paradoxie/

Waldschutz und Antijagd (1) > https://tierrechtsethik.de/waldschutz-und-antijagd-1/

Animal objectification and animal hatred > https://tierrechtsethik.de/animal-objectification-and-animal-hatred/

 

Single Issue vs. Intersectional vs. Real Antispe

Dear proponents of > multiperspectival liberational > approaches:

a.) the single-issue people, aren’t even single issue but rather using activism as a proxy for other agendas, consciously or partly consciously

b.) the intersectional people aren’t even intersectional since they value issues in hierarchical differences of moral weight and importance.

Gruppe Messel

 

 

 

Followerism and no infighting against Animal Objectification

Followerism and no infighting against Animal Objectification

“Hi, no infighting”, but a bunch of people rally for closing down animal shelters and bring this argument forth as their academic output from within Animal Rights + Animal Liberation scenes. You may call a clear cut stance > a critique within movements “infighting”, while we simply talk about messages. One must be seriously upset about of the amount of speciesism that’s being tolerated as part of antispeciesism. To us it’s time to take the unhandy step of an explicit even more far reaching separation from these currents, even if they are the norm/mainstream, within all that what we conceive as animal advocacy.

We wrote on social media:

„Wir können ja auch jegliche Schutzeinrichtung für Menschen aufgeben wollen und es bleibt trotzdem unethischer Quatsch. Wir sind gerade allen entfolgt die den hier benannten und kritisierten Akademiker*innen folgen, welche dafür plädieren … lest selbst“ > https://news.nathanwinograd.org/p/regarding-henry

„ … Tierrechts- und Umweltschutzthemen machen klar, dass weiblich gelesene Personen gleichermaßen zur Verantwortung zu ziehende culprits sind, wie ihre männl. gel. couterparts, nur nehmen sie in dem Theater eine andere Rolle im gemeinsam getragenen Skript ein. Subject closed!“

“We can also want to give up any protection facility for people and it still remains unethical nonsense. We have just unfollowed all those who follow the academics named and criticized here, who advocate this … just read for yourself” > [Nathan Winograd bringing up the issue and writing an excellent critique] https://news.nathanwinograd.org/p/regarding-henry

“ … Animal rights and environmental protection issues make it clear that female-read people are equally culprits to be held accountable, as their male-read couterparts, with the only difference that in the theater they take on a different role in the shared script. Subject closed!“

The tipping point really has been reached by this call that Nathan Winograd criticizes here, where two academic animal advocates unitedly call for closing down shelters – and with that proposal they implicitly undermine all the crucial efforts of the no kill movement in the USA:

“The Anti-Heroes: Katja Guenther and Kristen Hassen betrayed animals for self-aggrandizement. They now want to abolish animal shelters and leave animals to fend for themselves on the streets.” https://news.nathanwinograd.org/p/the-anti-heroes

This, while at the same time some proponents of Total Liberation within the Animal Liberation field seek to undermine discursive pluralism and normal democratic behaviour as animal advocates, calling divergences, critical analyses of speciesism and animal objectification and debate signs of „infighting“, and suggesting that Animal Liberation was only to be achieved when advocates would speak in unisono, and obviously consider themselves to be one political body in itself (though I assume they do secondarize animal issues in regards to any other issue that might lay in their interests – otherwise why would they even consider Animal Liberation to work in a more simplified way that Human Liberation, etc.).

How can people assume that Animal Rights issues should not be evaluated using all possible ethical criterions that apply – and that from people coming from all political angles. Animal Rights subjects are not a „world in itself“ that stands outside of all other political issues. They are to be understood exactly like Human Rights: They are our direct concerns. And no one can lay a claim on being the authorative main movement with an unquestionable entitlement.

Just learn to think of Animal issues like Human Rights issues and Animal Rights like Human Rights, and you can understand the approach our group choses. And in times of human conflict we may choose to do so decidedly.

 

rev. 24.10.24

The Animal Rights Environmental Rights Link

The relation between animal rights and environmental protection / protection of the co-world is not an illusionary niche realm, but rather the most conflict-prone place in which you can politically move as a ‘member of the species Homo sapiens’. In their closed collective majority, “humans” are, as effective hostile Ignoramuses, currently opposed to the subjects of > animal rights and environmental rights > in their combination and their mutual relevance.

non-biological animal sociology, Gruppe Messel

From our Visual Opinions Workshop > https://tierrechtsethik.de/the-animal-rights-environmental-rights-link/

Dedication

Animal Rights includes both:

An affirmation of the respect we hold for Nonhumans (the bridge of “dignity”, as holding a respectful stance)

A fight for clearing messed up terms, that allow for systemic and other factual harms and devaluations of Nonhumans.

@RadicalAntispe


A repost from our > Visual Opinions Workshop > https://tierrechtsethik.de/dedication/

 

Being and sensing

Being or sensing/feeling … ? Veganism vs. Sentientist struggles:

If someone argues forth or back for what argumentation is more substantial: that one of “life” (to be more meaningful as a criterion for human ethical concern) itself or that of “sentience”.

These angles are particularistic, foremostly if they move along the typical standardized philosophical borders.

Neither “life” nor “sentience” can be measured from a strictly human angle.

Animal Rights includes the ability to emancipate from objectivist humancentric viewpoints and enters into a philosophical space that allows freedom of the undefined: A basic respectful approach must not seek to overdefine its social and ecosocial environments.

Be it their lives or their sentience.

@RadicalAntispe


Repost from our > Visual Opinions Workshop > https://tierrechtsethik.de/being-and-sensing/

The term: sustainable

Sustainable … sustainability in social terms, inevitable.
Sustainable … when it means “growth”, seems a contradiction to economic-ecologic-justice.
Sustainable … and beneath the term of “ ’life’ on earth and water”, the rights and interests of ‘Farmed-Animals’ and ‘Lab-Animals’ (amongst other Animal Rights issues) are still being ruled out.

Antibiologistic Animal Sociology

Do you know all 17 Sustainable Development Goals? https://sdgs.un.org/goals

Als nationales Ziel von DE formuliert > https://www.bne-portal.de/bne/de/nationaler-aktionsplan/nationaler-aktionsplan_node.html > https://www.bne-portal.de/bne/shareddocs/downloads/files/nationaler_aktionsplan_bildung-er_nachhaltige_entwicklung_neu.pdf

The #EU uses to much language on sustainability that is incompatible with Animal Rights. The difficulties for animal adcovacy and the injustice towards the (entire) Nonhuman Animal World have to become part of humanities ethical home. We are positive the #UN can enventually help.


( > repost from our Visual Opinions Workshop @ tierechtsethik.de > https://tierrechtsethik.de/the-term-sustainable/ )